Quando tornare a investire in obbligazioni? (1 Viewer)

Rottweiler

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Molti tra noi, affezionati obbligazionisti, si trovano liquidi come non mai, e in attesa di capire dove (e soprattutto quando) rientrare massicciamente nei bond.
Per guidarci in questa decisione, da cui potrebbe dipendere il successo del nostro portafoglio nei prossimi 12-24 mesi, credo sia utile raccogliere le più svariate opinioni, purchè di qualche autorevolezza.

Propongo pertanto di postare qui report, articoli, interviste e tutto ciò che può essere di aiuto a chi desidera investire in obbligazioni di ogni tipo: governative o no, di Paesi sviluppati o emergenti o frontiera, senior o subordinate, etc.
Naturalmente si possono postare anche le opinioni personali, purchè motivate e documentate. Ma, per favore, Guru, tipo quelli che in altre discussioni prevedono con assoluta certezza le mosse di tutte le banche centrali del mondo, astenersi! Meglio il contributo di chi coltiva, pensosamente, il dubbio...:)

Poiché molta parte delle informazioni decisive è legata a ciò che si ritiene faranno le banche centrali in materia di tassi, do un contributo iniziale rimandando a 2 documenti:

+le più recenti previsioni del Research di Unicredit
https://www.research.unicredit.eu/D...1EjqIm_1zIJDBJIFZnSTSFyJEkDWijiNMbcQ=&T=1&T=1

+un articolo di ieri su BBG di El-Erian
Bloomberg - Are you a robot?
 

angy2008

Forumer storico
che i bond in generale scenderanno ancora é cosa certa, peró si puó guadagnare lo stesso puntando su titoli HY che in un determinato momento si trovano a sconto, non é facile ma per chi ha coraggio vale la pena di tentare.
Io vedo il ptf scendere ma penso sia una opportunitá avere dei prezzi buoni da sfruttare con la liquiditá che ho e che arriva dalle scadenze.
 

Vet

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Quando investire seriamente in Bond? Semplice al prossimo capitombolo finanziario …stato, banca ecc..ora si può contare anche sulla prossima variante virus o nuovo virus , nel frattempo si vivacchia perdendo un po’ di quattrini, possibilmente non troppi
 

Rottweiler

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Mike Wilson, Chief Investment Officer and Chief U.S. Equity Strategist for Morgan Stanley, scriveva ieri la nota che trovate qui sotto.
Wilson ha almeno un pregio: quello di esprimersi in maniera semplice ed essenziale. In più, è ritenuto da molti "uno di quelli bravi".
Anche se non scrive direttamente di bond europei, le analisi che fa hanno evidenti collegamenti con la situazione del Vecchio Continente. E non solo...

Last week, our economics team adjusted its forecast on Fed policy, given the more hawkish tone in the most recent Fed minutes and commentary from Chair Powell and other governors. We now expect the Fed to fully exit its asset purchase program known as quantitative easing by April. We also expect the Fed to increase rates by 25 basis points 4 times this year and begin balance sheet normalization by July. That's a lot of tightening, and fits with our general outlook for 2022 that we published back in November. To recall, our Fire and Ice narrative assumed the Fed was behind the curve and would need to catch up in a hurry, given the dramatic move in inflation that we've experienced during this pandemic. Public outcry and consumer confidence measures suggest inflation is the number one concern right now - making this a political issue as much as an economic one. Expect the Fed to keep pushing until financial conditions tighten.

What that means for equity markets is that valuations should come down this year via a combination of higher long term interest rates and higher equity risk premiums. The changes to our Fed forecast simply mean it's likely to happen faster now, making the hand-off between lower valuations and higher earnings more challenging. This is the classic finishing move to the mid-cycle transition we've been anticipating for months, and it appears we've finally arrived.

Our outlook for 2022 incorporated a fairly hawkish Fed, and while that hawkishness has increased since we published in mid-November, it doesn't change our year-end targets, which are already well below the consensus. Specifically, our base case year-end target for the S&P 500 is 4400. This compares to the median forecast of approximately 4900. Our target assumes a meaningfully lower Price Earnings multiple of 18x the forward 12-month earnings. This would be a 15% drop from the current Price Earnings multiple of 21x. Our EPS forecast is largely in line with consensus. In short, our view differs with consensus mainly on valuation rather than growth.

The faster ending to QE and more aggressive rate hikes simply brings this valuation risk forward to the first half of the year. Furthermore, given the Fed's new guidance it will try to shrink its balance sheet, means valuations could even overshoot to the downside of what we think is fair value. Bottom line, the bringing forward of tapering and rate hikes is likely to lead to a 10-20% correction in the first half of this year for the S&P 500, in our view.

The good news is that markets have been adjusting for months to this new reality, with 40% of the Nasdaq having corrected by 50% or more. As we've noted many times, the breadth of the market remains poor as it goes through the classic rolling correction under the surface as the index grinds higher. This phenomenon is largely due to the relentless inflows from retail investors into equities. On one hand, this rotation from bonds to stocks by asset owners makes perfect sense in a world of rising prices. After all, stocks are a decent hedge against inflation, unlike bonds. However, certain stocks fit that billing better than others. In its simplest form, it means value over growth stocks or short duration over long - think dividend growth stocks. In addition, we would favor defensively oriented value stocks relative to cyclicals, given our view growth may slow a bit more in the near term before re-accelerating in the second half. Bottom line, don't fight the Fed and be patient with new capital deployments until later this Spring.
 

Rottweiler

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L'opinione di Fugnoli qui ci sta benissimo. E non solo perchè espressa con il solito stile vellutato...
 

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Rottweiler

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Se poi vogliamo ascoltare la voce di una nota Cassandra...:ombrello::benedizione::titanic:

PS: prossima riunione FOMC il 25-26 gennaio, la settimana prossima; da seguire con molta attenzione...
 

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