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TheLondoner

Forumer storico
Mi sa che sei il mio unico lettore... :lol:

;) lettore assiduo anch'io, Paolo. Trovo questo thread molto interessante, anche perchè il settore Commercial RE viene trattato molto poco dai media mentre è potenzialmente altrettanto rilevante.

M'è piaciuta molto questa : rinegoziazione al ribasso dell'affitto ... prima o poi avverrà anche qui in Italia?
 

paologorgo

Chapter 11
;) lettore assiduo anch'io, Paolo. Trovo questo thread molto interessante, anche perchè il settore Commercial RE viene trattato molto poco dai media mentre è potenzialmente altrettanto rilevante.

M'è piaciuta molto questa : rinegoziazione al ribasso dell'affitto ... prima o poi avverrà anche qui in Italia?

In Italia non ne ho idea, anche se incomincio a vedere diversi negozi sfitti anche negli outlet, oltre che in alcuni centri commerciali e centri storici... ed immagino incida nella percezione del "costo" giusto di certi affitti... ma non conosco le prassi in questi casi. Se ho qualche competenza (poche...) è oltreoceano.

Mi devo spiegare meglio, perchè al solito ho fatto casino...

La procedura di Chapter 11 consente di chiedere alla corte l'annullamento dei contratti non più economici per l'azienda. Quelli di affitto sono i primi ad essere attaccati: in maniera diretta (sono un retailer che vuole chiudere 100 negozi e quindi lo faccio sotto ch 11 senza "pagare" dazio al padrone dei locali in affitto - semplifico, ma rende...), oppure indiretta - minaccio il landlord e propongo in tribunale un nuovo contratto a prezzo ridotto "liberamente" sottoscritto sotto minaccia di annullare del tutto il contratto. La corte difficilmente si oppone...

Poi c'è l'effetto descritto prima: avvocati scaltri patrocinano anche retailers che non sono in chapter 11 per rinegoziare le locazioni, in virtù del nuovo "momento economico generale", in mall che iniziano ad essere sfitti...

Quindi i contratti pluriennali dei REITs possono valere ben poco... come le alte occupancy pre-crisi.

Io non credo siamo al bottom, anzi, ma il settore mi interessa. Per disclosure, l'ho detto un po' di tempo fa, seguo i REITs del settore colocation (adesso non ne ho, ma prima o poi ci ricasco... :D) e spero di trovarne uno con un buon equilibrio settoriale/finanziario per il commercial. Non ho "giocato" il fallimento General Growth, ed infatti dopo il chapter 11 è quintuplicata... :lol:

ciao...
 

stockuccio

Guest
Mi devo spiegare meglio ...

sono un retailer ... minaccio il landlord ... in mall ... Quindi i contratti pluriennali dei REITs ... come le alte occupancy ....Per disclosure ... seguo i REITs del settore colocation ...

anche io ti leggo se ti può consolare
 

paologorgo

Chapter 11
Existing Home Sales and Median Prices Increase in May

WASHINGTON (Dow Jones):
Existing-home sales improved again in May, but falling prices and bloated supply promise to make a housing sector recovery slow.
That's one way to look at it. Here's are some alternative views:

1. The April to May increases in median home prices (3.84%) and mean home prices (3.26%) were the largest monthly price increases in more than a year (data here).

2. The monthly May increases in both median home prices (3.84%) and homes sold (2.36%) was only the second time in at least a year that both prices and unit sales increased in the same month.

3. The back-to-back increase in home sales in both April and May is the first time in at least a year of two consecutive monthly increases.

4. The most recent two-month increase in sales of 4.84% is the largest since April 2004 (source).

5. The 9.6 months supply of inventory in May is below last year's May level of 10.9 months by more than five weeks, and is at the second-lowest level in the last year.

According to Brian Wesbury and Bob Stein:
The data today are consistent with our outlook that the economy is recovering from a panic. Home sales, building activity, and the rate of decline in home prices all seem to be bottoming or have already formed a bottom. In fact, the level of existing home sales in May was the highest since October 2008.


http://seekingalpha.com/article/144904-existing-home-sales-and-median-prices-increase-in-may
 

samantaao

Forumer storico
ciao carlo, quale è l'ETF? (io tendo di più a guardare a ditte singole...)

ciao Paolo
conoscendo la tua specialità non avevo nemmeno accennato ad un paniere... comunque anche per chi fosse interessato:

IE00B1FZSF77
http://www.borsaitaliana.it/borsa/q...html?isin=IE00B1FZSF77&lang=it&grp=oicraperti

lo guardo da 2 anni, si è fermato dopo lo scrollone, nel quale ci fu anche un grosso fallimento
in primavera lessi un articolo sul sole (se lo ritrovo lo posto) in cui si prospettava la tenuta del settore grazie agli immobili commerciali... leggendo voi mi aspetto ben altro:D:D
 
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paologorgo

Chapter 11
9 REITs That Had to be Destroyed In Order to be Saved

In 1968 at the height, so to speak, of the Vietnam War, U.S. Air Force Major Chet Brown was fresh out of ideas. Tired, frustrated and on the wrong end of a microphone after a battle for the provincial capital of Ben Tre, he famously allowed that it had become necessary to destroy the town in order to save it. Such is the logic surrounding a spate of REIT equity offerings in the first half of 2009.

Undercapitalized and over-leveraged, many REITs had no choice but to enter into dilutive transactions in order to survive. But like Ben Tre, these 9 REITs have been flattened by massively dilutive equity offerings, and nobody can predict when they will be able to meaningfully grow their dividends again.

Most of these "re-equitizations" were completed overnight within hours of being announced, which is no wonder as they were priced at a huge discount (over 10%) to the previous day's close. Many of these overnight REIT equity offerings more than doubled the amount of shares outstanding.

The decision to sell massive amounts of discounted stock at a time when rents are declining across the board is tantamount to destroying these REITs. Indeed, dividends were cut almost immediately after these offerings closed. While it's unclear how the new shareholders felt about this little welcoming gift, what is clear is that these stock deals were hugely dilutive, and that will make it extremely difficult to show any meaningful dividend growth for at least the next several years.


NINE NOT SO GOOD REIT DEALS
REIT NAME SHARES OUTSTANDING
DIVIDEND CUT SA QUOTE
Brandywine Realty Trust +34% -67%
BDN Cogdell Spencer +74% -51% CSA Camden Living +13% -36%
CPT Duke Realty +40% -32%
DRE Kilroy Realty +27% -40% KRC Kimco Realty +39% -86%
KIM Prologis +65% -40%
PLD Regency Centers +14% -36%
REG Weingarten Realty +30% -52% WRI (vedi tabella in fondo)

There are many good reasons to invest in REITs right now. REITs typically lead property markets into and out of recessions, and these successful equity offerings indicate that the market is anticipating a recovery. Nevertheless, these 9 REITs are best avoided in favor of others that have not had to conduct such radical recapitalizations.

Suggestions? The adventurous could take a look at Simon Property Group (SPG). SPG also just closed a large equity offering, but dividends were not cut and management said recently that SPG would resume paying all cash dividends in early 2010 (Note: SPG is currently paying its dividends in stock.) SPG owns a portfolio quality assets in good locations, and they have cash to pick up more.

Apartment REITs will benefit from tighter single family lending standards, very favorable long-term demographic trends, and a precipitous drop in the construction of new apartment stock. Mid-America Apartments (MAA) has a portfolio of good assets in stable markets, and reported solid Q1 earnings along with Equity Residential (EQR). Meanwhile, certain Healthcare REITs could benefit from Obama's healthcare reform efforts, and the Fed's plunge into CMBS via TALF is causing lots of intrigue in Mortgage REITs.
Disclosure: None at the time of publication

http://seekingalpha.com/instablog/6...that-had-to-be-destroyed-in-order-to-be-saved
 

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paologorgo

Chapter 11
Zero Hedge non è un ottimista :D, quindi i suoi articoli vanno soppesati, però individua bene l'ultimo problema nato nel CRE: i default delle catene alberghiere...

Second Budget Hotel Bankruptcy In One Week; CRE Getting Monkeyhammered


First it was Extended Stay, which filed for bankruptcy last week (and whose unexpected filing may make life for CMBS participants very complicated as the law of unintended consequences strikes again). Today, it is budget hotel chain Red Roof Inn. The company, which owns 210 hotels, defaulted on $367 million of mortgage debt, has a total of $1.2 billion in total debt, including mezz loans and other notes.
The company was purchased a mere 2 years ago by Citigroup (yep, the same phenomenal deal makers who wouldn't know how to find their gluteus maximum with a magnifying glass, bought a 79% stake in yet another toxic piece of garbage) from Accor SA for $1.3 billion. From the WSJ:
"As a result of the extraordinary stress in the hospitality industry and the economy overall, we have entered into some restructuring discussions with our lenders," said Andrew Alexander, an executive vice president of Red Roof. "It has had no effect on our company operations or our franchise operations."

[The] drastic deterioration of hotels' business has led to a spike in defaults on securitized mortgages with hotels pledged as collateral. This month, defaults stand at 5% of the total of such mortgages, compared to 0.55% in June 2008, according to Trepp LLC. When a mortgage is securitized, it is chopped up and sold to dozens or hundreds of investors as bonds.

"Cash-flow performance issues and default concerns in 2009 have extended themselves to that of budget-priced, limited-service hotels," said Frank Innaurato, a managing director of Realpoint. "We would expect to see more instances of this type of default as borrowers continue to struggle with diminished cash flow from their properties in the not too distant future."
The combined Red Roof/Extended Stay defaults alone will cause hotel CMBS default rates to go stratospheric, and hapless investors may finally realize just why it is that subordinate CMBS were recently trading as if the apocalypse was about to occur. Of course, then Obama stepped in and gave everyone the impression that TALF would save the day and some other idiot (i.e. taxpayers) would be happy to purchase their toxic securities, resulting in a massive tightening in CMBS spreads of all classes and vintages. Of course none of that will happen, and just as CMBS will retrace their recent record wides, so will REITs whose business models are so closely intertwined with the stability of the securitized market will soon get reacquainted with their 52 week lows.

And in other Commercial Real Estate news, Bloomberg reports that Deutsche Bank's deal to sell its Manhattan Worldwide Plaza office tower has fallen apart.
The bank notified potential bidders that the property is back up for sale after deciding not to complete a June 3 deal with RCG Longview and George Comfort & Sons, said the people, who declined to be identified because they weren’t authorized to speak publicly.

Deutsche Bank will change the terms of the transaction with the new buyer, the people said. While it will still finance the sale, the bank will no longer retain an equity stake in the 47- story tower at Eighth Avenue and West 49th Street, the people said. Worldwide Plaza was one of seven Midtown skyscrapers Germany’s biggest bank took possession of 16 months ago when developer Harry Macklowe defaulted on about $7 billion in debt.
The CRE picture is atrocious and only now are people apparently starting to realize just how bad it truly is. Zero Hedge hopes that any retail fools who bought into the REIT upgrade by BMO's Paul Adornato were properly hedged as analyst after analyst completely lose any and all credibility in their attempt to ride the REIT short squeeze train until it is derailed and ends up a burning heap of aluminum and securitzations.


http://seekingalpha.com/article/145...ruptcy-in-one-week-cre-getting-monkeyhammered
 

paologorgo

Chapter 11
appurato che i lettori sono 4 e non solo uno :D (temo sempre di sprecare spazio con i miei interessi di nicchia, spesso non inerenti il tema del forum...) un punto di vista diverso, quello di un REIT che gioca in difesa da un po' di tempo... se non altro per evidenziare che non tutti hanno visto il problema DOPO...

In last year’s Annual Report [2007], we said, “We believe
that many companies (us included) have had a fairly
easy operating environment in recent years. Interest
rates have been historically low, which has allowed
businesses, consumers and investors to finance their
purchases of assets with higher levels of debt. This has
led to increased values in the stock market, bond
market, residential real estate, commercial real estate
and almost all other asset classes. At the same time,
we have seen historically low default rates on mortgages,
bonds, consumer loans, and virtually all other types of
credit. It has been our experience that all ‘good runs’
eventually end, asset values get a bit overdone and, at
some point, things slow down. We wouldn’t be surprised
if 2008 is a year that, at best, we all move towards a more
normal operating environment, and, at worst, we face more
challenging conditions throughout the economy.
We believe
we are prepared for such an environment and should be able
to make progress in our operations in 2008.”

That’s an understatement! As a conservative
Company, we were becoming very concerned with what
we were observing in the financial markets and where
we thought the economy might be headed. Thinking
that there might be substantial excesses in the overall
market, we made a number of moves, over the past
couple of years, that are serving us extremely well
today. Let’s take a moment to review what we were
thinking and what we did about the economic
environment we thought might be coming.
Since our business is to provide capital to other
businesses by buying their real estate and leasing it back
to them, we are, in essence, a provider of credit. That
means our competition is often other sources of capital,
such as the debt markets, and we try to maintain an
awareness of what is going on in those markets. From
2003 to 2006, we noticed that less creditworthy
borrowers were being charged rates of interest very close
to the interest rates being charged to the best borrowers,
which was unusual. This encouraged the more risky
borrowers to add a significant amount of debt to their
operations.We observed this not only in the retail industry,
but also throughout the overall economy. There seemed
to be too much leverage (borrowed dollars) in almost all
areas of the economy. Additionally, living in San Diego,
we had a front row seat to view the incredible increases
in the prices of residential real estate. We observed that
a lot of the real estate being bought and sold in our
community was being financed by “nothing down,”
“interest-only,” “sub-prime,” “limited documentation,”
and “negative amortization” mortgages. As a result, we
came to believe that a housing market bubble was
building very quickly. However, we also knew, from
experience, that excesses in any market can last a long
time and our ability to time the end of the cycle is limited.
In late 2006, we also came to believe we might be
at the beginning of the end of the rapid rise in the
housing market.
“Grant’s Interest Rate Advisor,” a great
publication to which I subscribe, noted that the cost
for an institution to insure against a default in a
$100 million residential mortgage bond was only about
40 basis points (4/10 of 1%), or $400,000. In a matter
of a few weeks, the pricing for the insurance went to over
300+ basis points ($3 million), and by February it went
to over 1,000 basis points ($10 million), which meant
that one or more institutions in the market thought they

needed insurance on their residential mortgage bonds
and were willing to pay up for that insurance.
“Grant’s”
very accurately interpreted these, and other events, as the
end of the housing bubble, and I thought their analysis
made sense. This also caused us to speculate that, if the
residential mortgage bond market collapsed, the
commercial mortgage bond market might not be far
behind, and then the REIT bond market might soon
follow. Eventually, the overall debt market could be
negatively impacted and so it occurred to us that capital
might become more difficult to obtain in the future.
 

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