Obbligazioni a tasso fisso CRISI UCRAINA, Bond Russia, Ucraina, Gazprom e altro (3 lettori)

[russiabond]

https://money.usnews.com/investing/news/articles/2023-01-31/russia-recommends-investors-convert-fx-bonds-amid-asset-freeze

 

[russiabond]

... Come già ripetuto e scritto

Il problema maggiore non è la sospensione del pagamento cedole da parte dei depositari europei Clearstream euroclear

Il problema maggiore sarebbe che Gazprom cessasse i pagamenti

... Finché i russi inviano soldi e fanno sollecitano la conversione in bond domestici da parte dei detentori di eurobond detenuti in NSD...

I soldi già arrivati e fermi in Euroclear e Clearstream saranno il male minore solo questione di tempo per la riscossione

O di licenza per cittadini occidentali

Per altre depositarie ad oggi nessuna novità

 

[Welsberg]

la 2024 era stata approvata

Successfully consented Bonds so far with Gazprombank


€ 750,000,000 2.25% Gazprom 2024 (Series 44) XS1721463500

grazie Angy, sempre sul pezzo ed informatissimo.
A questo punto una volta approvata la solicitation ed il cambio di payment agent cosa dovrebbe succedere per chi non ha ancora ricevuto cedola?

 

[angy2008]

grazie Angy, sempre sul pezzo ed informatissimo.
A questo punto una volta approvata la solicitation ed il cambio di payment agent cosa dovrebbe succedere per chi non ha ancora ricevuto cedola?

la aspetta come tutti gli altri o puo' far causa alla sua banca e alla depositaria. I soldi li ha la depositaria ma se le banche si attivassero con un po di polso penso che si sbloccherebbe qualcosa

 

[Welsberg]

la aspetta come tutti gli altri o puo' far causa alla sua banca e alla depositaria. I soldi li ha la depositaria ma se le banche si attivassero con un po di polso penso che si sbloccherebbe qualcosa

Angy sai dove è possibile scaricare la dichiarazione di avvenuta approvazione della soliciation? so già a priori che se non allego un documento ufficiale la banca mi kogliona per l'ennesima volta

 

[angy2008]

Angy sai dove è possibile scaricare la dichiarazione di avvenuta approvazione della soliciation? so già a priori che se non allego un documento ufficiale la banca mi kogliona per l'ennesima volta

a cosa ti serve, piuttosto dovresti allegare un documento che attesta che i soldi li ha ricevuti la depositaria. Il fatto che siano transitati sulla vecchia o la nuova banca agente e' ininfluente. Qualcosa in merito ai pagamenti di Gaz Capital lo trovi nei post indietro ma non c'e' un documento ufficiale delle depositarie che confessa i furti anche se conclamati. Rei non confessi.

 

[Welsberg]

a cosa ti serve, piuttosto dovresti allegare un documento che attesta che i soldi li ha ricevuti la depositaria. Il fatto che siano transitati sulla vecchia o la nuova banca agente e' ininfluente

hai detto niente....e come kakkio si ottiene?

 

[russiabond]

Il nostro Vangelo...

Issued on: 22 June 2022 Last update: 20 January 2023

 

[russiabond]

Does the EU owner of shares or bonds in a company subject to an asset freeze as a result of its ownership or control by a listed person have a duty to freeze these shares or bonds? Last update: 8 April 2022 Since the owner of the shares is the EU operator, not the listed person, no freezing is necessary as such under Article 2(1) of Council Regulation (EU) No 269/2014. 7. Can the EU owner of the shares or bonds of a listed company sell them? Last update: 8 April 2022 If the sale does not result in making funds or economic resources available to the listed company or for its benefit, it is allowed. However, it would be prohibited if the buyer were the company itself or any other person targeted by EU restrictive measures such as those in Article 2 of Council Regulation (EU) No 269/2014. Furthermore, the transaction must not breach Article 5 or Article 5e of Council Regulation (EU) No 833/2014. 8. Aggregate ownership: If two or more listed persons are each minority shareholders of a non-listed entity, but their aggregate ownership amounts to more than 50% of that entity, should that entity be considered as owned by listed persons? Last update: 8 April 2022 One should take into account the aggregated ownership of the entity. For example, if one listed person owns 30% of the entity and another listed person owns 25% of the entity, the entity should be considered as owned by listed persons. 9. A listed person is deemed to control a business group that also includes a listed entity. Should the assets of all the companies belonging to the group be considered as controlled by the listed person and accordingly be subject to restrictions under Article 2 of Council Regulation (EU) No 269/2014? Last update: 8 April 2022 If control of the listed person over the group as a whole is determined, then the conclusion can

 

[NoWay]

Does the EU owner of shares or bonds in a company subject to an asset freeze as a result of its ownership or control by a listed person have a duty to freeze these shares or bonds? Last update: 8 April 2022 Since the owner of the shares is the EU operator, not the listed person, no freezing is necessary as such under Article 2(1) of Council Regulation (EU) No 269/2014. 7. Can the EU owner of the shares or bonds of a listed company sell them? Last update: 8 April 2022 If the sale does not result in making funds or economic resources available to the listed company or for its benefit, it is allowed. However, it would be prohibited if the buyer were the company itself or any other person targeted by EU restrictive measures such as those in Article 2 of Council Regulation (EU) No 269/2014. Furthermore, the transaction must not breach Article 5 or Article 5e of Council Regulation (EU) No 833/2014. 8. Aggregate ownership: If two or more listed persons are each minority shareholders of a non-listed entity, but their aggregate ownership amounts to more than 50% of that entity, should that entity be considered as owned by listed persons? Last update: 8 April 2022 One should take into account the aggregated ownership of the entity. For example, if one listed person owns 30% of the entity and another listed person owns 25% of the entity, the entity should be considered as owned by listed persons. 9. A listed person is deemed to control a business group that also includes a listed entity. Should the assets of all the companies belonging to the group be considered as controlled by the listed person and accordingly be subject to restrictions under Article 2 of Council Regulation (EU) No 269/2014? Last update: 8 April 2022 If control of the listed person over the group as a whole is determined, then the conclusion can

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