Obbligazioni societarie Bonds Air Berlin Eur/Chf DE000AB100B4 XS1051719786 XS1051723895 (2 lettori)

sandrino

Forumer storico
Capisco. Astaldi?

forse dovresti aprire un thread su cosa io ho in portafoglio, magari per denigrarmi.

Astaldi no

ti tolgo la curiosità ti dico il mio portafoglio
In percentuale, senza importi. Comunque sono povero

il 50% in gestione separata, Rialto
20% in sicav, quattro comparti lux im
10% in azioni, Unicredit Banca Profilo
20% in bond
Di ciarpame In questo 20% ci sono
Banca Marche (cifra importante ma che ormai considero zero)
Air Berlin e Pdvsa quattro spicci

Chiedo scusa per OT ma se no juri elencava tutta la mondezza forumisticamente nota
 

ecris

Nuovo forumer
La culona salva LHA, noi bondisti AB ormai siamo morti e dimenticati.

Mah.. il tribunale non si e' ancora espresso nei confronti dei farabutti arabi..
Tu dirai, hanno sbagliato i risparmiatori a fidarsi, ma loro comunque sono e restano dei farabutti. Il recovery dovrebbe essere almeno 30/35 se fossero uomini..
 

gionmorg

low cost high value
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Etihad bondholders put airline on notice with debt revamp

By Davide Barbuscia

Owners of $1.2 billion in debt issued by Etihad and other airlines it partly owned have given the struggling Abu Dhabi carrier an ultimatum to agree to a restructuring or potentially face legal action, two sources close to the situation said.

The move is the latest turn in the unravelling of Etihad's strategy to embark on global partnerships with airlines, the most high profile of which have since gone bankrupt.

A steering committee of debtholders, comprising largely local as well as international investment funds, submitted a proposal to Etihad about a month ago asking the carrier to agree to restructure the two bonds, due in September 2020 and June 2021, but have yet to receive a response, the sources said.

The proposal, which has not previously been reported, involves a maturity extension of the debt by up to three years but would require Etihad or its owner, the oil rich Abu Dhabi government, to guarantee the repayment of the underlying loans that were made to airlines partly owned by Etihad such as Air Serbia and Air Seychelles.

Etihad issued the debt in 2015 and 2016 through an Amsterdam-based special purpose vehicle, EA Partners (EAP), which then distributed the money to Etihad and the other airlines.

The original deal envisaged each airline paying off its own portion of the debt, according to the debt documentation, a copy of which has been seen by Reuters.

Under the latest proposal, creditors would write off the portion of the debt owed by bankrupt carriers Air Berlin and Jet Airways, equivalent to $344 million, the sources said.

Debt owed by Alitalia, the Italian carrier, would be included in the proposed refinancing because Etihad agreed to cover it under a private "debt assumption agreement" signed by the two airlines in 2016, the sources said.

If Etihad does not agree to the proposal, the bondholders via EAP will make a claim in ongoing bankruptcy proceedings involving Alitalia and Air Berlin. In this way, Etihad may be required to honour Alitalia's debt, the sources said.

Etihad declined to comment. EAP, Alitalia and the Abu Dhabi government did not respond to requests for comment.

Etihad has previously told EAP the debt assumption agreement is not enforceable against the company, according to an EAP stock exchange disclosure last month.

Even before the coronavirus froze most air traffic, the notes had lost more than half their value after three of the borrowing airlines went bankrupt.

For Etihad, which has piled up billions of dollars in losses since 2016, refinancing the debt could mean delaying repayments worth hundreds of millions of dollars while it deals with the fallout from the coronavirus crisis.

(Reporting by Davide Barbuscia, additional reporting by Yousef Saba; editing by John O'Donnell and Carmel Crimmins)
 

sandrino

Forumer storico
Invece ci riguarda ma in negativo

Secondo l’ultima proposta, i creditori cancellerebbero la parte del debito contratto dai vettori low cost in via di fallimento Air Berlin e Jet Airways, pari a 344 milioni di dollari, secondo quanto riferito dalle fonti.
 

ecris

Nuovo forumer
Invece ci riguarda ma in negativo

Secondo l’ultima proposta, i creditori cancellerebbero la parte del debito contratto dai vettori low cost in via di fallimento Air Berlin e Jet Airways, pari a 344 milioni di dollari, secondo quanto riferito dalle fonti.

So che e' in atto una causa specifica per il bond avente ISIN DE000AB100B4 che aveva scadenza originaria ad aprile 2018. Non so se queste ultime notizie lo coinvolgano o se comunque la causa segua una sua strada...
 

Cat XL

Shizuka Minamoto
Ciao John
Credo non riguardi noi o mi sbaglio

Non riguarda i bondholders di Air Berlin. Qui si parla di prestiti. Indirettamente pero' riguarda anche i bondholders.

Qui e' coinvolta anche Goldman Sachs che rischia di essere portata in tribunale.

Il problema e' che le note emesse EA Partners sono in gran parte possedute da banche ed istituzione di Abu Dhabi che stanno facenda pressione perche' vengano ripagate.

Situazione molto ingarbugliata.
 
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