Bond Russia, Gaz etc. pagamenti ricevuti cedole e capitale. Elenchi in prima pagina (3 lettori)

maxinblack

Forumer storico
quindi penso si riferiscano a quello che ha cedola in scadenza domani, magari potevano svegliarsi prima, forse si sono mossi solo perche' la tua banca e' stata piu' efficiente delle altre. Quale banca hai? hai il testo originale o solo la traduzione che hai postato?
Era la vecchia Invest Banca di Empoli, assorbita adesso dalla Banca Cambiano, avevano un buono OTC e impiegati tutto sommato bravi per essere una piccola Banca.
 

fedro10

è la somma che fa il totale...
giusto per un sorriso già scontato ho appena messo giu il telefono con la banca la quale non sa niente non ci sono comunicazioni dicono loro.
Adesso provo la registrazione.
 

angy2008

Forumer storico
Era la vecchia Invest Banca di Empoli, assorbita adesso dalla Banca Cambiano, avevano un buono OTC e impiegati tutto sommato bravi per essere una piccola Banca.
se non ti hanno raccontato una bufala sono stati meglio di tutte le altre banche ... come si suol dire dalle mie parti grande e grosso ciula e balosso
 

maxinblack

Forumer storico
quindi penso si riferiscano a quello che ha cedola in scadenza domani, magari potevano svegliarsi prima, forse si sono mossi solo perche' la tua banca e' stata piu' efficiente delle altre. Quale banca hai? hai il testo originale o solo la traduzione che hai postato?
No, no, la mail che ho postato sopra, è in italiano direttamente dall ufficio titoli della banca, non so ' se se è una traduzione, mentre nell' allegato originale invatomi che vedete qui, parlano di trasferimento forzoso a NSD, ho fatto un copia incolla

1. EVENT DETAILS . FORCED TRANFER
OF SECURITIES - LAW 319FZ SUBJECT:
DISCLOSURE REQUEST FROM THE NSD
REQUIRING
THE CONSENT OF PARTICIPANTS PURSUANT
TO THE FORCED TRANSFER OF SECURITIES

PROCEDURE IN ACCORDANCE WITH FEDERAL
LAW NO. 319-FZ DATED 14JULY2022 'ON
AMENDMENTS TO CERTAIN LEGISLATIVE ACTS
OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION' ('FEDERAL
LAW NO. 319-FZ') (THE 'SECURITIES'),
OUR CUSTODIAN HAS BEEN DEBITED ON ITS
ACCOUNT WITH THE NSD OF POSITIONS IN
ISIN RU000A0JU4L3 PURPORTEDLY SUBJECT
TO FORCED TRANSFERS DIRECTLY IN RUSSIA


. HOWEVER, OUR CUSTODIAN HAS BEEN UNABLE
TO RECONCILE THESE POSITIONS DUE TO
LACUNARY INFORMATION PROVIDED BY THE
NSD ABOUT THE IDENTITY OF THE HOLDER(S)
WHO HAS(HAVE) APPLIED FOR THE FORCED
TRANSFERS AND THE FULL CUSTODY CHAIN
IMPACTED BY THIS DEBIT. . IN ORDER
TO RECONCILE THE DEBITED POSITIONS
AND REFLECT SUCH DEBIT ON THE RELEVANT
ACCOUNT(S) OF PARTICIPANT(S), OUR
CUSTODIAN HAS REQUESTED TO THE NSD
SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE IMPACTED
HOLDERS. . PROVIDED THAT THEY RECEIVE
IDENTIFICATION DETAILS OF PARTICIPANTS
IN THE ABOVE ISIN AND THEIR RESPECTIVE
POSITIONS, THE NSD CONFIRMED IT WOULD
DISCLOSE THE QUANTITY OF THE SECURITIES
POSITIONS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBJECT TO
A FORCED TRANSFER AND IDENTIFICATION
DETAILS OF THE CUSTOMER ACCOUNT THEY
BELIEVE TO HAVE BEEN AFFECTED. HOWEVER,
OUR CUSTODIAN ALSO UNDERSTANDS THAT
THE NSD DECLINED TO PROVIDE ANY OTHER
INFORMATION, INCLUDING THE IDENTITY
OF THE PERSON WHO HAS APPLIED FOR THE
FORCED TRANSFER, NOR THE IDENTITY
OF THE PERSON TO WHOM THE SECURITY
HAS BEEN TRANSFERRED OR ITS CUSTODIAN
. . THIS OTHR EVENT AIMS TO OBTAIN THE
CONSENT OF PARTICIPANTS TO ALLOW
OUR CUSTODIAN TO DISCLOSE THEIR IDENTITY
AND POSITIONS TO THE NSD. . . CUSTOMERS
HAVING DOUBTS OR QUESTIONS CONCERNING
THE ACTIONS TO BE TAKEN ON THIS EVENT
CAN CONTACT YOUR CORPORATE ACTION
REPRESENTATIVE ----------------------
. 2. HOW TO INSTRUCT . YOUR INSTRUCTION
MUST INCLUDE YOUR ACCOUNT NUMBER, ISIN
CODE, FULL CONTACT DETAILS AND POSITION
SUBJECT TO FORCED CONVERSION APPLICATION
. . NOTE: BY SUBMITTING YOUR INSTRUCTION
YOU HAVE IRREVOCABLY ACCEPTEDTHE
DISCLOSURE
OF YOUR ACCOUNT DETAILS, . 2.1.
INSTRUCTION
PER BO . OPTION 001: NO . 2.2. BO
REQUIREMENTS
. OPTION 001: NO . 2.3. PAPERWORK
. OPTION 001: NONE +++ SOURCES OF
THE INFORMATION: SUB-DEPOSITARIES,
CENTRAL DEPOSITARIES, NATIONAL
NEWSPAPERS,
GAZZETTA UFFICIALE (OFFICIAL GAZETTE),
BORSA ITALIANA ANNOUNCEMENTS, ISSUERS
PROSPECTUS, ETC. THIS INFORMATION,
WHICH MAY HAVE BEEN TRANSLATED OR
SUMMARIZED,
WAS OBTAINED FROM SAID EXTERNAL SOURCES,
THAT ARE REASONABLY BELIEVED TO BE
RELIABLE. INTESA SANPAOLO CANNOT
GUARANTEE
THAT THIS INFORMATION IS ACCURATE,
EXHAUSTIVE OR RELEVANT AND WILL NOT

ACCEPT LIABILITY FOR THE CONTENT OF
SUCH INFORMATION.
 

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angy2008

Forumer storico
No, no, la mail che ho postato sopra, è in italiano direttamente dall ufficio titoli della banca, non so ' se se è una traduzione, mentre nell' allegato originale invatomi che vedete qui, parlano di trasferimento forzoso a NSD, ho fatto un copia incolla

1. EVENT DETAILS . FORCED TRANFER
OF SECURITIES - LAW 319FZ SUBJECT:
DISCLOSURE REQUEST FROM THE NSD
REQUIRING
THE CONSENT OF PARTICIPANTS PURSUANT
TO THE FORCED TRANSFER OF SECURITIES

PROCEDURE IN ACCORDANCE WITH FEDERAL
LAW NO. 319-FZ DATED 14JULY2022 'ON
AMENDMENTS TO CERTAIN LEGISLATIVE ACTS
OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION' ('FEDERAL
LAW NO. 319-FZ') (THE 'SECURITIES'),
OUR CUSTODIAN HAS BEEN DEBITED ON ITS
ACCOUNT WITH THE NSD OF POSITIONS IN
ISIN RU000A0JU4L3 PURPORTEDLY SUBJECT
TO FORCED TRANSFERS DIRECTLY IN RUSSIA


. HOWEVER, OUR CUSTODIAN HAS BEEN UNABLE
TO RECONCILE THESE POSITIONS DUE TO
LACUNARY INFORMATION PROVIDED BY THE
NSD ABOUT THE IDENTITY OF THE HOLDER(S)
WHO HAS(HAVE) APPLIED FOR THE FORCED
TRANSFERS AND THE FULL CUSTODY CHAIN
IMPACTED BY THIS DEBIT. . IN ORDER
TO RECONCILE THE DEBITED POSITIONS
AND REFLECT SUCH DEBIT ON THE RELEVANT
ACCOUNT(S) OF PARTICIPANT(S), OUR
CUSTODIAN HAS REQUESTED TO THE NSD
SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE IMPACTED
HOLDERS. . PROVIDED THAT THEY RECEIVE
IDENTIFICATION DETAILS OF PARTICIPANTS
IN THE ABOVE ISIN AND THEIR RESPECTIVE
POSITIONS, THE NSD CONFIRMED IT WOULD
DISCLOSE THE QUANTITY OF THE SECURITIES
POSITIONS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBJECT TO
A FORCED TRANSFER AND IDENTIFICATION
DETAILS OF THE CUSTOMER ACCOUNT THEY
BELIEVE TO HAVE BEEN AFFECTED. HOWEVER,
OUR CUSTODIAN ALSO UNDERSTANDS THAT
THE NSD DECLINED TO PROVIDE ANY OTHER
INFORMATION, INCLUDING THE IDENTITY
OF THE PERSON WHO HAS APPLIED FOR THE
FORCED TRANSFER, NOR THE IDENTITY
OF THE PERSON TO WHOM THE SECURITY
HAS BEEN TRANSFERRED OR ITS CUSTODIAN
. . THIS OTHR EVENT AIMS TO OBTAIN THE
CONSENT OF PARTICIPANTS TO ALLOW
OUR CUSTODIAN TO DISCLOSE THEIR IDENTITY
AND POSITIONS TO THE NSD. . . CUSTOMERS
HAVING DOUBTS OR QUESTIONS CONCERNING
THE ACTIONS TO BE TAKEN ON THIS EVENT
CAN CONTACT YOUR CORPORATE ACTION
REPRESENTATIVE ----------------------
. 2. HOW TO INSTRUCT . YOUR INSTRUCTION
MUST INCLUDE YOUR ACCOUNT NUMBER, ISIN
CODE, FULL CONTACT DETAILS AND POSITION
SUBJECT TO FORCED CONVERSION APPLICATION
. . NOTE: BY SUBMITTING YOUR INSTRUCTION
YOU HAVE IRREVOCABLY ACCEPTEDTHE
DISCLOSURE
OF YOUR ACCOUNT DETAILS, . 2.1.
INSTRUCTION
PER BO . OPTION 001: NO . 2.2. BO
REQUIREMENTS
. OPTION 001: NO . 2.3. PAPERWORK
. OPTION 001: NONE +++ SOURCES OF
THE INFORMATION: SUB-DEPOSITARIES,
CENTRAL DEPOSITARIES, NATIONAL
NEWSPAPERS,
GAZZETTA UFFICIALE (OFFICIAL GAZETTE),
BORSA ITALIANA ANNOUNCEMENTS, ISSUERS
PROSPECTUS, ETC. THIS INFORMATION,
WHICH MAY HAVE BEEN TRANSLATED OR
SUMMARIZED,
WAS OBTAINED FROM SAID EXTERNAL SOURCES,
THAT ARE REASONABLY BELIEVED TO BE
RELIABLE. INTESA SANPAOLO CANNOT
GUARANTEE
THAT THIS INFORMATION IS ACCURATE,
EXHAUSTIVE OR RELEVANT AND WILL NOT

ACCEPT LIABILITY FOR THE CONTENT OF
SUCH INFORMATION.
a me sembrerebbe una richiesta di censimento in conseguenza della richiesta da parte di NSD di trasferire alcune posizioni, riferibili a detentori russi, in conseguenza della licenza che era stata data il mese scorso.
Ritengo che convenga comunque dare il consenso, anche se avevo sperato fosse per intenti piu' favorevoli a noi. Poi si potra' insistere con maggior forza sulla depositaria affinche' sblocchi quanto ha indebitamente trattenuto, mentre invece non so se questo censimento serva a convincere NSD a pagare alla depositaria ulteriori scadenze visto che l'intento e' di pagare i russi e aspettare che gli altri completino la procedura presso NSD finche' le nostre depositarie non dimostreranno di ottemperare i loro impegni senza rubare.
 
the consent for the CHF 2023 Gaz Capital has been approved by the majority, now all that remains is to wait confidently for the repayment with the new paying agent and also the fee which I think will take longer since the October one has not yet arrived

did i2 Capital confirm that to you? I see no update on their website and the (virtual) meeting is supposed to take place at 4.30pm London time. Thanks
 

dierre

Forumer storico
il consent per la CHF 2023 Gaz Capital e' stato approvato a maggioranza, ora non rimane che aspettare fiduciosi il rimborso col nuovo agente pagatore e anche il fee che penso richiedera' piu' tempo visto che non e' ancora arrivato quello di ottobre
Speriamo!
ANche la 34 ha cambiato agent, ma cedola ancora nisba... :clava:
 

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