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cocobaya

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Un saluto a tutti, chiedo una spiegazione a questo passaggio del discorso del ceo Sherin :
"If conditions were to deteriorate beyond what is in our stress scenario, we also have the option of scaling back originations in GE Capital to conserve cash and capital."
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Grazie e buona serata
 
Un saluto a tutti, chiedo una spiegazione a questo passaggio del discorso del ceo Sherin :
"If conditions were to deteriorate beyond what is in our stress scenario, we also have the option of scaling back originations in GE Capital to conserve cash and capital."
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news press genaral el.
Grazie e buona serata

le originations sono in pratica i prestiti che loro fanno a fronte del quale impegnano capitale ed eventualmente accantonano riserve ......

Ad aprile si spera vengano forniti maggiori dettagli e il 17 ci sono i risultati e il 22 il meeting degli azionisti che vorranno capire che tipo di assunzioni hanno fatto nel loro stress test di cui hanno parlato oggi.
La prima cosa che dovrebbero chiedere gli azionisti sono le dimissioni di un ceo che ha totalmente perso credibilità e a poco sono servono anche gli acquisti degli ultimi giorni dei manager di azioni proprie ( ricordiamo come il CEO di Bank of America si sia letteralmente fumato 1mln $ comprando azioni della propria banca solo un mese fa)

Comunque continuo a non riuscire a pensare a un default di GE. Oggi il management ha anche citato oltre ai vari prestiti agevolati di stato (TARP) il pieno supporto di warren buffet che ha già investito parecchio capitale in GE e che potrebbe aiutare un altra volta in estrema istanza. Come dice l'ottimo Bill Gross non e' un'altra AIG
 

negusneg

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le originations sono in pratica i prestiti che loro fanno a fronte del quale impegnano capitale ed eventualmente accantonano riserve ......

Ad aprile si spera vengano forniti maggiori dettagli e il 17 ci sono i risultati e il 22 il meeting degli azionisti che vorranno capire che tipo di assunzioni hanno fatto nel loro stress test di cui hanno parlato oggi.
La prima cosa che dovrebbero chiedere gli azionisti sono le dimissioni di un ceo che ha totalmente perso credibilità e a poco sono servono anche gli acquisti degli ultimi giorni dei manager di azioni proprie ( ricordiamo come il CEO di Bank of America si sia letteralmente fumato 1mln $ comprando azioni della propria banca solo un mese fa)

Comunque continuo a non riuscire a pensare a un default di GE. Oggi il management ha anche citato oltre ai vari prestiti agevolati di stato (TARP) il pieno supporto di warren buffet che ha già investito parecchio capitale in GE e che potrebbe aiutare un altra volta in estrema istanza. Come dice l'ottimo Bill Gross non e' un'altra AIG

Intervento ineccepibile :up:

Aggiungo che quanto postato da TheLondoner, se vero, non fa che confermare quanto hai dettro su Immelt. :mad:

Sherin, che se non sbaglio è il cFo (chief financial officer) di GE, oggi ha anche detto che ci sono stati problemi di comunicazione e di trasparenza sullo stato di GE Capital, ma che ci stanno già lavorando.

Perfetto :cool: in una situazione torbida come questa ci mmancavano solo dei problemi di "trasparenza"...

Confermo che aspetterò fino ad aprile per decidere il da farsi.
 

METHOS

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Io ci sto entrando su GE. Mi sembra incredibile quanto stia avvenendo, anche se in questi tempi tutto è possibile. Se ge capital va in bancarotta ritiro i miei ultimi risparmi dalla banca...


Gimme Credit analyst says buy GE's 9-year notes

Thu Mar 5, 2009 10:26am EST








NEW YORK, March 5 (Reuters) - Fixed-income research service Gimme Credit recommends that investors buy General Electric Capital Corp's nine-year notes, saying the company will likely remain a top-tier credit in the "AA" rating range.
Though 2009 is shaping up to be a tough year for GECC and its parent GE (GE.N), "we continue to view the consolidated firm as a top-tier credit (still within the 'AA' range, after factoring in parent company support)," Gimme Credit analyst Kathleen Shanley said in a research note on Thursday.
She recommended that investors buy GE Capital's 5.625 percent notes due in 2018, which traded at a yield spread of 635 basis points over Treasuries on Wednesday. The spread widened to about 668 basis points over Treasuries on Thursday.
Bonds of GECC and its parent sold off this week as investors feared the recession would make it harder for consumers and businesses to pay their bills and would lead to higher credit losses at the finance arm. GE's "AAA" rating is on review for a downgrade by Moody's Investors Service because of concerns about the impact of the deteriorating economy on earnings.
Bondholders have also been unsettled by the possibility that there may be some credibility to the idea of spinning off the finance company from the industrial conglomerate, Shanley said. However, a spinoff is highly improbable, she said.
"First, GE has made no suggestion that it would consider such a possibility," she said. Moreover, a split would require the cooperation of bankers who have committed about $60 billion of lines of credit, she added.
GE Capital also is receiving major support from U.S. government programs, such as the Temporary Liquidity Guarantee Program, and the government would likely find a way to block any spin-off of the finance company, she said.
"GE Capital can issue up to $126 billion under the TLGP, so it doesn't have to run out and raise new funds at the onerous spreads implied by its credit default swap levels," she said.
GECC's five-year credit default swaps blew out to a record high of 20.7 percent upfront on Wednesday, according to Markit Intraday. That means it cost $2.07 million in an upfront payment, plus $500,000 annually, to insure $10 million of GECC debt. The swaps traded around 17.4 percent upfront on Thursday, after closing at 15.1 percent upfront on Wednesday, according to Markit Intraday. (Reporting by Dena Aubin; Editing by Tom Hals)
 

METHOS

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Loomis' Fuss says could buy more GE debt

Thu Mar 5, 2009 4:20pm EST



NEW YORK (Reuters) - Loomis Sayles' Dan Fuss, one of the biggest and most widely followed U.S. bond managers, said on Thursday that he may add to existing positions in the corporate bonds of General Electric Co. GE.N and its finance unit even if traders and investors are expecting their coveted "AAA" debt ratings to be stripped by the credit agencies.





"This is a market-driven event for obvious reasons," Fuss told Reuters in an interview on Thursday. "These are not silly concerns by any means."
Fuss is referring to the "forced selling" that could be occurring among some of the biggest institutional investors including sovereign wealth funds and foundations and endowments who would no longer be able to hold GE debt if it lost the triple-A rating.
On Thursday, GE Capital's 5.25 percent notes due in 2012 widened 74 basis points to 776 basis points over Treasuries, according to MarketAxess.
"Our view of the credit, based on what we know, is that it is probably a double-A credit," Fuss said.
Fuss is vice chairman of Boston-based Loomis Sayles, which oversees more than $100 billion in fixed-income securities, including GE and GE Capital Corp.
Fuss added that he doesn't see any liquidity issue with GE and its finance unit. After three days of sharp declines, shares of the world's largest maker of jet engines and electricity-producing turbines leveled off after CFO Keith Sherin said there was no "time bomb" hidden in its hefty GE Capital finance arm.
Sherin told CNBC television it was possible the company's coveted triple-A, which has historically allowed GE Capital to borrow money very cheaply, could be cut to the double-A range but that he could not imagine it being cut further.
"We're getting a lot of speculation about the risk in GE Capital, obviously, and I think it's overdone," said Sherin, a GE vice chairman. "We can basically fund ourselves all the way through 2010 without any issues."
Overall, Fuss said GE debt securities and corporate debt, for that matter, look compelling for long-term investors, particularly over Treasuries. "GE bonds and corporate debt certainly are a better choice at these levels than Treasuries from a longer-term view," he said.
(Additional reporting by Dena Aubin; Editing by Diane Craft)
 

arckan

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Io ci sto entrando su GE. Mi sembra incredibile quanto stia avvenendo, anche se in questi tempi tutto è possibile. Se ge capital va in bancarotta ritiro i miei ultimi risparmi dalla banca...

Io ci sono RIentrato, ho ricomprato a 68 metà di quello che ho venduto a 80.88 che avevo a sua volta comprato a 92 :mmmm: :)
 

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